Herb Trawick: Oh God, about twenty-five years ago in the lobby of a studio when we were both aspiring kids from the south. Dave was from Atlanta by way of Florida, I was from Kentucky by way of Montreal. We came to L.A. to make our bones and ended up in the same studio lobby accidentally. We connected there and I had a chance about a month later when somebody called me for a referral--I had just met this white guy who worked on James Brown and I thought that was pretty cool. I hadn't heard a note, but I referred him and he went over and did a job on a hip hop record and absolutely killed it and has been hot for thirty years and we've been friends for that long.
Mike Ragogna: You've released a book, The Pensado Papers that we'll talk about, but first, how did the television show come about?